Sydman’s Side Defect (12/27/08) - A TALE OF TWO FRANCHISES
December 27, 2008 by SYDMAN
A TALE OF TWO FRANCHISES
RED BULL could lose Yeng Guiao before the 2008-09 Fiesta Conference could unfold. This is after seeing his team decimated continuously and vigorously for three consecutive seasons. It was said that Red Bull is eager to give up their PBA franchise which they have held since 2000.
Meanwhile, AIR21 is keen of changing their name to Burger King, seeing that the fast food chain needs to bolster its popularity (which puzzles me considering that BK is turning out to be the fast food version of the coffee wi-fi shops). Burger King’s PBL stint has produced Ronjay Buenafe, Macky Escalona, and current Air21 stalwarts Doug Kramer and JR Quinahan.
How are these two teams intertwined? Let’s see with this theory.
Teams are checking out whether or not Burger King needs to pay a stiff or measly sum of franchise fee. Sure, it’s true that Bert Lina of Air21, owns Burger King, but it’s doubtful if he is the main stockholder of the franchise. Browse Wikipedia and you’ll see that BK is owned by Lina, Lito Alvarez, Ricky Vargas, and Manny V. Pangilinan.
Vargas is TNT’s board representative while MVP owns TNT.
This explains why Air21 is TNT’s bitch.
BITCH I TELL YOU!
If SMC monopolizes the best players from other teams… then TNT basically takes out all the “fun” in Air21. Sure, one will argue that the Ranidel de Ocampo versus Don Allado trade is not lopsided, since Allado is merely a victim of lack of playing time and ball-hogging backcourt-mates… which de Ocampo at one point of his career will also suffer…
…But try checking out TNT’s major Air21 acquisitions: Yancy de Ocampo (who should have been blossoming if he had more minutes), Renren Ritualo (who should have been blossoming if he had more minutes), Jay Washington (who blossomed when SMB saved his hide), and Macmac Cardona (who is blossoming… period) are amongst the few names that were taken away by the Tropang Texters from the Express that should have been key acquisitions for their drive to the top.
Okay, so MVP is making TNT some kind of a RP Team sanctuary. Great! That means Arwind Santos is the next name to join the Texters! Problem lies… will Patrick Fran be again part of the trade? How ‘bout Gilbert Lao?
Please, do me a favor and trade him for Jec Chia. The guy does not deserve being in the reserved list.
Which reminds me… Red Bull has already dealt Cyrus Baguio and Celino Cruz to the Express in exchange for draft picks.
One would wonder… what the fuck!
Baguio is the only “thing” left in the Red Bull lineup! Add Cruz and Red Bull will have has-beens and never-were cagers. This is like PBL was unearthed in the PBA but instead of signing free agents, all they did was hire Liga stars.
Yes, it is THAT bad.
Sorry Red Bull, but inasmuch as I like Yeng Guiao’s ability to create something from nothing, this season says it all. I think the original lineup… the one that had OGIE GUMATAY and BERNARD TANPUA looks better than this current cast! Why waste your energy molding these players if you’re just going to lose them to… free agency.
I have a theory… and I have to be wrong… but it concerns RB and the rest of the league…
If you hate me now, you’ll hate me more.
Red Bull is a poor PBA team.
Baguio was initially being pushed to Ginebra. However, since the Gins backed down, the Barakos tried this to Air21.
By the way, months before Junthy Valenzuela’s trade, I had a spy telling me that “The Hitman” has been practicing in the Gins roster. This idea puzzled me because Valenzuela was still playing for the Bulls. But in his two games of playing for Red Bull in the 2007-08 Fiesta Cup, we merely made 6 points, 1.5 rebounds, and 1.5 assists in 13 minutes.
A mere conference ago, Junthy averaged 15.7 points, 5 rebounds, and 3.4 assists for Red Bull.
The same can be said to why weeks before Red Bull traded Rico Villanueva; they were giving Carlo Sharma more minutes. And when they traded Villanueva for Romel Adducul, they quickly sent Adducul to Purefoods for… Don… freaking… Camaso!
Red Bull gets dividends out of making talents and offering them to big market PBA squads!
Currently…
SMB: Mick Pennisi, Lordy Tugade, Larry Fonacier (before being sent to Alaska)
PUREFOODS: Kerby Raymundo, Enrico Villanueva, Topex Robinson, Rich Alvarez, Paolo Bugia
GIN: Junthy Valenzuela
Except for Raymundo, this was pretty much the core of the Red Bull team that last won a championship! And by the way, remember when Red Bull offered Willie Miller to TNT for nothing? Akala mo nagyayabang sila???
HINDE OY!!!
This could be why Yeng Guiao has been chirping to ease out of RB coaching duties in the near future. With the way his team has been oppressed, decimated, and churned out to different sectors, he should be working for some talent enrichment company!
With the recession “hinting” to take effect in the next year, some ballclubs could be at risk of disbandment. While it is not the case for Air21, Red Bull could be suggesting this otherwise. We are forgetting that the PBA is a commercial league, where franchises are owned by multi-national businesses. This is why SMC has the best players and TNT owns the remainder of the talent.
Alaska’s players are great but that does not mean they are hefty. Sta. Lucia had to endure years of the “Kenneth Duremdes-Brandon Cablay” trade before they finally got quality players. The Realtors are also lucky to have a set of players that are usable but not heavy on the budget, considering that the real estate business doesn’t hold shit to Class C and D Filipinos living by eating SMC products and subscribing to either Smart or TNT.
So what will happen to Red Bull?
Will Air21/Burger King get enough of the bullying?
Only time will tell.
(photo from air21express.com.ph)
Loading ...
pota nakakatamad pba if ganyan ang deals. imagine if fan ka ng redbull or air21 then they are fleeced like this.
Mick Pennisi, Lordy Tugade, Larry Fonacier (before being sent to Alaska), Enrico Villanueva, Topex Robinson, Rich Alvarez, Paolo Bugia, Junthy Valenzuela & baguio —– these folks are good for multiple championships.
mga 3 pang ganitong deals and movements, i’ll dump pba. nba na lang tayo. or revive the mba or put up a better league. haiz.
This is EXACTLY why I stopped watching the PBA for the past few years. Too many lopsided and shady trades that happen because of ownership/politics/money matters. PBA basketball is not pure anymore. I’ve been an Aces fan for the longest time, and despite the Aces being one of the more hated teams in the league, I’ve always liked how they didn’t give a damn about the other teams no matter how unpopular some of their moves are. But even I lost some respect for the Aces (and the PBA in general) when they acquired TDLC and Rich Alvarez for scraps from the just-disbanded Shell franchise that time.
All these recent lopsided trades of the past couple of years have made me lose my respect for the PBA. Really, a superstar talent traded for fricking future draft picks?? The Camaso-Adducul trade is only one example of many SHADY deals that has happened in the PBA. Pinagpapasa-pasahan lang ang mga players e. The owners are like 10 year old rich kids who borrow toys are each other when they get sick of their own, with one or two of them selling their toys to the other, richer kids.
Now I still remain an Aces fan, and I watch their games when I can. But the rest of the league, I don’t give a damn about.
pakshit!!!!!!!bago nyo tirahin ang tnt at ir21 tgnan nyo muna yang smb na yan!!…
bullshit!..bobo mo..ang smb ang gumagawa ng rp team hnd tnt..
daycare lng ng smb ang redbull..tgnan mo lineup ng smb!!bobo! wag ka pabor!!!
Siyempre yang SMC teams ang pinakatarantado. I never watch nor root for any SMC team kasi sa bias at under-the-table deals na nangyayari diyan. One of the most stupefying moves I’ve ever seen in all my years watching pro basketball is yung nagtrade ng coach ang Ginebra at SMB (Tanquincen-Uichico). Ano namang katangahan un?
that’s what they want you to think!
Listen, in the FIBA Olympic Qualifiers, most of the team were what???
Oh yeah… combine the guys in the roster and the people that once donned the RP National pool, you’ll probably see that Asi Taulava, Jimmy Alapag, Harvey Carey, Yancy de Ocampo, Jay Washington, and Willie Miller once played for the international tilts.
They also traded Miller when they didn’t need to use his services in the RP team for deals that sent Don Allado and Renren Ritualo to the lineup.
And after they sacked Derrick Pumaren, the coach that they picked up was…
LA DI DA!
FAST FORWARD TO 2008!
After having only Jared Dillinger in the current 12-man national pool (which was unlike Chot Reyes’ 25 or 30 or something), they took Ranidel de Ocampo from Air21.
Dude, I KNOW that SMB owns the RP team but you have to play around with your mind a bit to know that there are other factors that lurk inside the Philippine Team. Amongst the players called now, how many SMB players you see playing for the lineup?
Like I said, it’s just a theory.
Don’t pretend to be stuck in your strange shell you call brain and check out the bigger picture…
… dumbass. (smiley face)
JUST KIDDING!
PS: If Im going to favor a team of my choice, i’ll put ALL the Gins, Giants, Aces, and Realtors that I like because that would eat your TNT-AIR21 asses!
especially to renz…. I challenge you to make up a PBA conspiracy theory that could make my spine tingle in awesomeness…
THINK OUT OF THE BOX!!
was uichico traded directly to tanquincen? i think i remember tanquincen being an assistant to uichico at ginebra at one point, i think chot was still in smb then.
correct me if i’m wrong. i think jong and siot won a championship when both of them were in ginebra.
They weren’t traded ‘directly’… but I find it laughable that they switched teams almost immediately after. It’s like they have a pool of players and they’re playing mix and match with the coaches.
kaya nga..bkt c washington at don2 wala sa rp?kc gus2 nila e pa champion ang smb!!at tgnan mo ung smb at redbull connection!!!bobo!!!monggoloidz..XD
at tgnan mo nga ang lineup ng smb past and present cno ang rp team?!
wag ka pabor monggoloidz…nani2ra ka kc down team mo?sus!gago..XD
wahaha, nice article… paunti unti nakakamove on na ko sa renaidel de ocampo trade dahil andyan na si baguio and allado is quite doing some damages…
ang kinakatakot ko lang, kapag natuluyan ng lintik at naging burger king ang air21, baka trades na naman and rebuilding ang mangyari(wag naman sana si baguio, david at santos)… kung ayaw na ni coach yeng ng patapon na team, punta siya sa air21… este burger king next conference/season… dalawang factor ata ang dahilan ng pagreresign niya eh. una, ayaw na nga niya ng patapon at walang direksyong team, pangalawa, makapagconcentrate sa RP team…
yung siot-jong issue… parang naging trade nga ang nangyari eh, nadelayed lang… imagine, kawawang siot, napagchampion niya ang ginebra then biglang magiging assistant coach lang siya under coach jong? What the….
SMC teams, they are benefitting on each other and at the same time sa ibang teams… lagi silang lumalakas kapag may trade…
pero sa case ng Air21-TNT, kawawa air21(air21 players,coaches and fans, not the management)… pero AT LEAST Air21 is using the traded draft picks to acquire/draft good rookies and also use those draft picks as trade baits to get blue-chipped players(oo benhur at sydman, pinagtatanggol ko team ko, haha)… maskawawa ang red bull, walang nakukuha(pera lang at draft picks na parang di rin nagagamit)
pakibasa yung write ups ni Ronnie nathangyols ncemacolam njei ekwe whatever, sa Manila Standard today… mukhang galit siya sa PBA ngayon….
Happy new year to all and God bless!
HEY renz…SHUT UP!
damn it!
this is was a normal “article” until you showed up!
anyway, i will not use name calling because you obviously don’t know shit…
i wrote this biased! now, look at the red bull champ… on of yeng guiao’s reasons why he resigned was the lack of dominating players! yes neil is right on the money when he said yeng’s reasons were also to concentrate on the rp team and his political career where he is also vice-governor in pampanga. so this means teaching another set of players is out of the question for coach yeng as of this moment.
ANYWHO!
renz, Dondon at 31, is old compared to Yap, Baguio, Dillinger and even Ranidel and Arwind for the SG/SF slots. Ganun naman talaga e, mas mabilis tumanda ang mga small players kasi ang speed at shooting nila ay nagdi-deteriorate. (although I would have still wanted a jimmy alapag on the roster… just like how jason kidd’s entry to the US team gave them a strong veteran presence)
also, may nagpapahiram na ba ng mga players ngayon? i don’t know pero none of those players have been asked to leave their ballclubs upon their insertion to the national team.
as for washington, i would have wanted either him or dorian pena to get the spot given to pennisi by guiao. if you check on J-wash’s stats, 1) he’s a great find for pts, reb, and blks. 2) he prefers to be under the radar just like ranidel and 3) he is a player that could play for the rp team beyond 2009.
fact is, aside from the name calling, all you do is ask questions. normally, people ask questions nicely.
obviously you could have been touching yourself when it was first taught during kindergarten.
and asked why smb past and present tends to have more players in their rp team… back then, they were the only team that can waste their dineros into helping the team. now, they have numerous backers to choose from… especially now with MVP as one of the vocal leaders in the SBP.
you must be running your mouth while NOT understanding the writeup. again, please state a scenario and explain why, that scenario seemed eerie.
teka, kasama ka ba sa original BAP kaya di mo ‘to magets?
damn it, thanks to you my first hoops comment is an angtsy one.
happy new year!
– kulang pala to ng limang question marks at sampung exclamation points.
no, i am not dissing tnt and air21 as teams but rather as franchises.
i guess the reason why smc and tnt are getting big time players lies on the way they earn their money outside the pba. smc and smart are the two biggest franchises (with smc easily fielding in 3 teams and tnt has 1 team and 1 pseudo team).
ok, to make it truce-like for renz, can we say na the franchises with the most number of pera gets most of the talent in the pba?
thanks.
sydman, i agree. parang sa baseball. yankees ang nangunguna lagi pagdating sa mga star players because they have the means at ang winning tradition na importante naman talaga! parang smb lang.
@ sydman: oh yeah! that’s why i love baseball. :) tsaka all-star/star player ka man or regular rotation guy, parehas lang kayong may chance to excel dahil may PT kayo.
Poof. And Yeng Guiao disappeared. And so is the heart and soul of the barakos team.
Not to take anything away from Red Bull, I look at them as a pain in a opposing team’s arse everytime but with the way Tony Chua and Co. ruined this franchise.. I say screwthem. Just sell this franchise to Harbour Center.. I’d rather see Maierhoffer throw fingers at anyone than watch Paolo Hubalde take 20 shots a game because there’s no one else to shoot.
see?… no guiao?…
blows…
1
2
3
abracadabra….
HERE’S YENG!
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20090108-182070/Burger-King-Guiao-forge-2-year-deal
here’s another scenario about MVP’s desire to own the rp team.
any… more… questions?
uhm well now who can speak of loyalty? thats basketball business. underneath the court is a barter, an exchange of good for a good. pano kapag mahal mo ang team mo pero hindi ka na mahal? then you become a free agent haha. sabi nga ano mas gusto mo, un mahal ka pero hinde mo mahal o yun mahal mo pero hinde ka mahal? dun ka sa mahal ang bayad hehehe
Lol just an amateur insight on this one =D