TMCC, The Mark Caguioa Conspiracy
August 21, 2008 by .:.
Minutes before the Gin Kings bagged the championship against the so young and AIR21, I’m not worried that the people’s team would lose but rather whether or not Mark Caguioa would be awarded the FINALS MVP.
The first time Menk won the said plum over Mark was understandable since the former had the best games of his career grabbing every rebound and even swooshing three-pointers. But the second one was unacceptable as the numbers of Mark was way ahead of Menk’s.
For the third time, Mark failed to bring home the bacon as it was given to his bandana brother Jayjay. No, I’m not biased neither against the co-awardees Menk and the ever lovable-best-actor-acrobat Ronald Tubid. They deserved the attention. However, I’m definitely against the system of the PBA for allowing the Press Corps to choose the recipient of the said recognition (I believe with sole discretion huh!).
Nevermind the numbers and stats posted the entire series. Truly, Menk and Tubid had their best games hours ago but that should not be the only basis for electing the FINALS MVP. Otherwise, scrap the stats, fire the statisticians too. Make it a Press Corps popularity contest instead.
Still remember when Ato Agustin won the season MVP over the stat leader Nelson Asaytono? How about Marlou’s loss to Patrimonio? And recently Jayjay’s win over Mark for the BEST PLAYER OF THE CONFERENCE despite the latter’s edge with regards to stat points.
And finally, since the press gave the award to Menk and Tubid, why the exclusion of Mark (who averaged 21pts prior to game 5,4 and 7)? Mark, despite of his knee injury displayed the true never say-die attitude for managing to score in double figures and grabbing crucial rebounds that spoiled the comeback of the Express during the pivotal minutes.
Artadi was valuable in the entire series too, so too with Junthy. It would be more acceptable if the award was given to the entire Ginebra squad rather than give it to two players other than Caguioa for the purpose of depriving him the recognition due to him because of his being maangas and takleso.
Anyway, congrats to the GINKINGS and enjoy the party. From 0-6 start to being the champions, that’s amazing.
And to Bo, sorry, not yer time yet.Next time, just don’t be too excited and beware of your post game comments such as “its okay to lose game4 because we want to celebrate at the Araneta Coliseum.” Celebrate what, yer first runner-up finish?
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re: mark not being finals mvp,
huhuhu. i wanna cry. =(
re: bo’s cuneta-is-too-small statement,
huh. whatever dude. but if it was mark caguioa saying that, i would agree.
^ LOL. He said that?
As if the Cuneta Astrodome isn’t enough for Air 21’s legion of fans.
yeah, he did. during a press con after game 4.
“masyadong maliit ang cuneta.. mas gusto naming magcelebrate sa araneta”
he said they just have to win two straight so celebrations be done at araneta.
yeah right. i think he went straight to cuneta after game 7. he realized that the size of cuneta is okay. he didn’t even go out to accept the trophy with his team, did he?
And now,Bo is blaming the fans of BGK for their defeat.Bitter luck next time! He went out with his team to accept the trophy pero pilit na pilit hahaha!
fans of the express
are just fit in a barangay multi purpose
maybe they are celebrating now..
whoahh congrats bo!!!
your a overweening that’s what you got!!!
loser express
+the fans of the express are 90% employee
(hi bert lina)
individual awards should be performance-based or statatistical-based.press people should not decide on tnis matter.mark caguioa have the right to be himself,he should be commended on his effort of being himself and not pleasing everybody, he is a basketball player and he is competitive, and he doesn’t need to kiss some press ass just to have mvp, c’mon kobe has a mvp now so as iverson, so being maangas is not a factor.press people are so spoiled.this should stop.
^agree. and why is that finals mvp is solely judge by the press. cmon man, truth is, finals mvp could be more valuable than a bpc citation. now why in the world a vengeful groupie decides who’s great and who’s not. if season mvps and cup bpcs are decided by stats, some committee, tv coveror, the press, let it be too for finals mvp.
just on the comment of bo perasol after losing Game 4, he was way too ahead of himself, saying he prefers Araneta when winning the championship. Boo-hoo! what a sorry loser and right now still blaming the fans of Ginebra for their poor performance. WHy can’t he just accept that the Gin Kings are a far superior team than his Express and that in the battle of the coaches, he simply does not hold a candle over Coach Jong. For a team to survive those many injuries and still come out on top, especially after starting the conference 0-5 says a lot about the Gins’ coaching style, that sadly, Mr. Bo perasol does not have. He needs to grow up and acknowledge the skills of his opponents if he really wants to win. Being such a bitter loser and blaming the crowd, instead of saying that they were outplayed is really a LOSER statement.
Mark, despite of his knee injury displayed the true never say-die attitude for managing to score in double figures and grabbing crucial rebounds that spoiled the comeback of the Express during the pivotal minutes.
pivotal means valuable, as to the spark not winnning the finals mvp, i believe the spark doesn’t mind.What he cares for is that the majority of this archipelago is happy.we are champs once again…being an mvp is not just about how many throphies you bring home or how many accolades u get from the spoiled press corps. to many of us, mark caguioa is mvp and we are not trying to please everybody
and to mr. bo perasol.
just a piece of advice…u don’t wanna play basketball againts the entire phillippines with your shot crazy and no D,Air 21 crew,who threw Air ball after Air ball during the final crucial seconds..talk about having a ball (balls?)and to mr. pure energy..find a better alias..how about,the bully to the finals mvp.
press corps + bo perasol + air21 players = TOTAL LOSERS
ei, maiba ako. sorry for being ignorant, i can’t find some of the articles like the one where sydman enumerated his top 30 players, and one article about ginebra-air21 finals match-up… pls. help me?
some writters here are die hard Ginebra fans, just like ED PICSON na halata sa pagcocommentator niya…
Pero si sydman, di mo mahahalata sa article niya kung Ginebra ba siya o hindi… yung article niya eh hndi biased… masarap basahin… sorry sa tatamaan… peace!
guys, eh di magadvice kayo na magkaroon ng hiwalay na finals MVP,… press corps finals mvp yun, walang pakialamanan… pati yun, pinoproblema… ang importante nagCHAMPION na ang Ginebra… bitter kanyo air21 at si coach Bo, eh kayo nga, panalo na, may sinasabi pa? Bitter happy? hehe, peace…
to Ehehe, hey your observation about some writers here being die-hard Ginebra fans, hehe. Sure, and we’re proud of it. Any team who can survive the way they did and come out on top sure deserve its legions of followers. Even Ed picson got hooked, huh?! hehe. Sorry na lang to the fans of the other teams that does not have the same character as the Ginebra team. Peace! haha.
that’s the point “ehehe”…
it’s the PRESS CORPS’ FINALS MVP.
that’s what we are complaining about. why the judgement lies on their hands.
because the decision must have not been subjective.
tlagang importante na nagCHAMPION ang GINEBRA. at importante rin sana na nag-IISIP ang mga nag-aaward.
bitter happy?!? what the????
galing nyo tlaga nastysweet and budgirl
the point about Jay Jay winning against Mark is acceptable because of the fact that stat points are only the basis for selecting the top 5 players of the conference or the season i which we the PBA press corps together with representatives of the network and players are going to vote among the 5 the MVP or the Best Player. Now just to make things clear bein ahead in the statistical points is not an insurance to win the MVP. Looking at this at another point of view JJ Helterbrand is indeed lower in statistical points but looking at his average points although few points lower he has the leagues number one assist average. Taking that in to consideration JJ really deserve that award also the fact that he was there in the team when Mark is down with injuries.. Now about the Finals MVP it’s our tradition to choose the Finals MVP on the last Game of the Finals. It may sound biased but that is how things work for us even in the past. If Air21 won the cup it would have been Arwind Santos who will win the Finals MVP, guys that is how things work for the league.. I hoped everyone is clear about these issues goodnight and thanks.
sorry everybody but i think more than anyone of you fans we did deserve to pick these awards because of the fact that i was there every single game of the season and even sometimes when playing out of town. Respectfully debating the comment Press Corp award, votes are cast by ABC 5 representative, The PRESS CORPS and the PBA PLAYERS themselves. I’m really sorry things didn’t turn out the way you wanted it, off the record if the Finals MVP was chosen by avg then it would be Mark winning it hands down.
thanks for the info, sir ……. (sir or ma’am?) i wish to call you by name, but you’ve written only ……..
anyways, with all due respect….
so it’s your tradition pala to choose the finals mvp during the last game of the finals.
then we must change the title of the award. FINALS MVP is not a proper term.
maybe we can try LAST GAME OF THE FINALS MVP… masyado nga lang mahaba.
if Mark won that award then you may not have aired your opinions on it but it was the standard way before i join the Press Corps and that is how they did it even before some of the folks with me and believe me they are old. We are just continuing it and if you would want it done statistically it would be Menk avg 12pts and i think 6 rbs Mark with just 16pts if i remember it correctly. Arwind was hitting 15 pts per game and close to 10 rbs and David with 16 i think. Statistically it would be Arwind who should won the award. choosing from the winning team points wise it would be mark but there is also the rebounds to consider.. we are just following these and that is how the award is called Finals MVP, may it be a last game MVP that is still how it is called..^^
“if Mark won that award then you may not have aired your opinions on it”
-CORRECTed by. if mark was awarded finals mvp, my comment would be:
I LOVE THE PRESS CORPS! KEEP IT UP!!!
sir/ma’am, i believe you do understand our reactions. we love mark. and we feel sorry for him because his efforts weren’t recognized. and if you really really think you’ve made the right decision, then okay.
we’ll stick to what we said, anyway.
On: …
Thanks for the insights man. We appreciate it. I’d be posting the stats for the whole finals as soon as I end up some paper works. I think the stat sheets are up in PBA-Online.net (10 times better than the PBA Website) and you can use that as reference regarding the stats.
Thanks for dropping by man, looking forward to more of your comments.
Galing talaga nyo press corps,hindi lahat ng tradtion mainam,so tuoly lang sistema nyo kahit mali?Dapat ang title ng award hindi FINALS MVP kundi FINAL GAME OF THE FINALS MVP! Di lang dahil kay Mark tong write up but for the betterment of the game,kahit sino player tatamarin sa sistema nyo.
….we hope that the criteria for choosing would be better next time kahit sino pa maglaro sa finals tnx anyway for the info keep on reading here.
to alecto, nastysweet and budgirl-
you are all correct, its not that we
want MC all the way. this is actually for the benefit of PBA.Time will come MC will retire but the impact he made in the PBA? hoooh- -no comment!
press people- come on guyz, we dont need to be traditional. some of you needs to stand-up and fight what you believe is right…
YOU have to consider that MC is todays greatest player in the PBA..
sino ba gusto nyo - Perasol (superAIR), or James (CowardKINGjames & a celebrity)…
it seems easy for you guys to say to go against tradition and as i have stated before stats wise menk would give mark a good run for the FINALS MVP award. Maybe you guys should have your own awards so that everybody will be happy. ^^ We had a lunch meeting with Ginebra moments ago and mark was very happy of tubid and menk winning the award, saying, “They both deserve the award. They were the reason we won the championship. When everyone was struggling, including me, they were there to keep the game close.”
One way guys to look at this issue is we give opportunities to guys who are not the main guys of a team a fair chance to win the award. It even gives someone who is seldom use a chance to prove himself when it really counts for the team. And we are not taking away anything from mark, offensively he is the best player around with or without an award.
there is nothing new about this,, even ang season MVP judging is questionnable.. kaya nga ng-MVP si james yap dahil sa press n yan eh.so undeserving and so disappointing
apl
season mvp questionable? that time J Yap won(before I’m part of the press corps) J Yap won the vote held by the players and ABC 5 representative it was the press corps that time that James had competition in the tally. As I said before guys season MVP are chosen through VOTES FROM PLAYERS, THE MEDIA AFFILIATE AND THE PRESS CORPS. As I recall it James won the MVP award almost in all the players who voted.
^amf… to the press corp representative hands up ako… tradition ba? well, hindi nman kyo ethnic group ‘di ba to stick on traditions… sabi nga ng banner ni obama “CHANGE” yun ang answer po… hndi nmin kinikwestyon ang pagiging MVP nila Menk at Tubid… well, they did great sa finals…. pero ang amin lang, yung performance ba at effort sa buong series na binigay ni MC for that matter e hindi narecognize… kung popularity contest ang pagpili ng individual awards, aba ang dapat gwin ay pabotohin na rin ang mga fans ‘di ba? hands up ako sa luxury na meron ang press corp…. sana maksama din ako dyan… (engeng application form)… hindi lang nman kasi ito dahil kay mark, tama sila, dadating ang panahon at mapapagod din si mark na gumawa nga record sa PBA at magreretire ng hindi na aacknowledge ang prowess nya… para ‘to sa future stars… nakakatamad kasing mag laro, kung alam mong mananalo ng MVP eh yung gusto lang ngs isang grupo na nakatali sa TRADITION. para ‘to sa mga rookie, na papalit sa pwesto nila mark… please let’s just be fair…
join a leading newspaper if you want to join as a newbie o right how? graduate from a prestige school with a degree in journalism.. hmmm to make sure you have to be at top of your class and some of your work published. ah it would never hurt to get recognition from an established organization. or the easy way work for someone and hope they relinquish their spot at the press corps and by any wild chance chose you to replace them. well all i could say to you is amf!! you talk about fairness? then if it would bbe done by fans what would you think would be the outcome?? come on man answer not taking anything away from the fans but there are equal number of Mark’s fans to James Yap haters. What about those team that has no fan base? where is the equal opportunity in that scenario. And an MVP award doesn’t secure a place in the history. Mark is included in the plan 50 greatest PBA players that would be released in the future. chocoloco hindi candy ang press corps na pede mong hingin stop with your concept of fairness when your main argument is flawed.
tsk tsk. wala pala akong chance…
sayang. =(
budgurl… pareho tyo…
hndi po ako graduate ng prestigious na school nor a journalism graduate…
ipero grumaduate nmn ako… wahahaha….
as far as i could remember, board passer pa nga…
i could not compare to what the members of the pba press corp had already achieve…
sorry if some of you guys do think that i have very little understanding about basketball..
fmy concepts are flawed… ok… la akong contention to that, ano ba naman aq… isang hamak na chocoholic lang… never been a part of any prestigious organization… wait, PNA pla…. hehehe….
siguro nga i could not compare to what some of you guys have achieved, masama bang mangarap n maging parte ng isang organisasyon? hindi ko kinukumpara sa candybars ang ang pag pasok ng pba press corp, hanga nga ako sa kung anong meron ang grupong yun eh… masama n plang mangarap…
budgurl, we have no chance…
gawa na lang tyo ng org natin…
mark caguioa’s wives club…. ahahahahaha….
…. said: you talk about fairness? then if it would bbe done by fans what would you think would be the outcome?? come on man answer not taking anything away from the fans but there are equal number of Mark’s fans to James Yap haters. What about those team that has no fan base? where is the equal opportunity in that scenario.
sir/ma’m this is what i said earlier:
kung popularity contest ang pagpili ng individual awards, aba ang dapat gwin ay pabotohin na rin ang mga fans ‘di ba?
kung popularity contest po yun po yung suggestion ko….
since i am askin for fairness, ang gusto ko po sana i base nila ang pag pili sa individual performance ng player at hnd sa vote ng kahit n sino….
clarification lang po
oo nga, chocoloco. taralets bagets!
isa lang din akong nobody. isang tao na graduate sa isang eskwelahan na pinamumugaran ng mga aktibista, na pinagmulan ng magagaling na judges, lawyers, senators, atbp… writers? madami din cguro, di ko lang sila kilala… bwahahaha =)
la din akong alam masyado sa basketball… like kung ano ibig sabihin ng illegal defense (wala na atang ganun no?) at difference ng flagrant foul penalty 1 sa flagrant foul penalty 2… basta ang alam ko lang, mula ng mamulat ang pag-iisip ko ay ginebra na ang favorite team ko, at nung unang apak pa lang ni mark caguioa sa pba court ay mahal ko na sya. =)
wait, nasabi ko na bang mahal ko si mark? parang hindi pa no?!?
well, mahal ko sya. =)
in kapampangan,
kaluguran ke.
in english,
i love him.
bwahaha. =)
let’s go let’s go…
aja aja…
hehehehe….
asa womb pa lang aq ginebra fan na ko eh… hehe… the only legacy that my dad left me….
mc, waahhh…. blonde p lang xa super love ko na…
hehehe…
pero he proved to much n nmn eh…
hnd man mging pba mvp…
he’ll be the MVP in our hearts…
oo nga, kamukha pa nya si manny pacquiao nun..
sabi pa nya sa interview: “sa mga fans koW, marunoWng din akoWng magtagaloWg”
ahihi.. lavet!
(at nagreplyan tayo eh noh, chocoloco)
hihi.
like the presscorp said, its a tradition, thats why i hate traditions, and the fact that it is FINALS MVP, i mean, how many games did they played in the finals? U know u have a very crappy system to be honest. It should be MVP of the game AKA best player of the game kung gnun na lang. Actually if it is not mark then probably it was Alexander for he is the one carrying the team all along when mark and jay was injured. Im not against tubid nor menk for winning that but common guys, mark is the spark, not only for the team but for the FANS. MVP means MOST VALUABLE PLAYER, and what values are we talking about here? We are talking about the most IMPORTANT PLAYER on that WHOLE SERIES, not on a single game but the WHOLE SERIES… GINEBRA without Mark on that series? It will be the other way around.
TALAGA NAMANG BITTER HAPPY KA EH… PAMBIHIRA, fan ka ni MARK CAGUIOA hndi ng Ginebra… Pati pagkapanalo ni menk at tubid, pinakikialaman niyo at ginagawang malaking issue… Sige nga, kung di naglaro si Tubid, palagay niyo nagchampion pa ang Ginebra? i don’t think so… Mark was hurt, sino nagstep up… si tubid… sa game 7, sino bumuhat sa Ginebra, si menk… Pambihira kayo… GOD ALLOWED MENK AND TUBID TO WIN THE AWARD, wag na kayo kumontra…
champion na nga, pati award bitter pa rin… tapos sasabihin niyong bitter LAHAT at LOSERS ang air21, kayo nga, ang dami niyo pa sinasabi… TINGNAN NIYO MUNA SARILI NIYO… You don’t deserve to be a gin king fan, marami ako kilala na gin fans pero di ganyan umasal…
^are you refering to me, ehehe?
well, if you are, then let’s make some things clear. (or if you are not, i’ll say this still):
first of all, yes, i am a fan of mark caguioa.. is it that OBVIOUS??? i thought i was being DISCREET. but not of ginebra?! fyi, i am already a ginebra fan even before mark caguioa entered the pba. i am a ginebra fan whether they WIN or they LOSE. i accept new ginebra players that i previously DISLIKE, but for the sake of the team, i accept them with no buts and whys…wait, i don’t need to enumerate all the proofs of my being a ginebra fan, do i???
second, we do not entirely say that TUBID and MENK don’t deserve the award. i just said that MARK deserves it more. SPOT the DIFFERENCE on those two points. it’s actually very CLEAR.
third, you said we don’t deserve to be ginebra fans? WHO ARE YOU TO TELL US THAT??? do you own the team??? well even if you do, you don’t have the right.
i’ve had enough of this topic. or, maybe im really just BITTER HAPPY, who knows??? it’s a cute term, i’d like to add it to my very limited vocabulary. i think i’ll use it on my next blog. thanks. =)
@hehe I was a gin king fun 1980’s ago lolz! I ve been loyal to them khit na nung dark days nila kung saan talagang players wise wala mahuhugot sknla…
and Are u definitely sure that even mark didn’t play, ginebra will still win that series? o common man? who attracts the defense? who is being guarded heavily? Mark makes his teammates tasks easier. Bout menk and tubid? hands off to them since it was definitely splendid game they played that night and probably their best game throughout the season, but we are talking about giving recognition to someone that carried the team through out the conference. Look ginebra without mark? Do you ever think that they will even be at the champs? and don’t open arguments about team effort since it is an obvious factor in every team games, but ginebra has the luxury of having a go to guy down the stretch that they can rely unto.
Its always like these for him:
Ginebra on drought - MC is consistent, everyone is in a slump. no recognition to MC
Ginebra’s hot - MC is consistent, everyones contributing. Recognition to those who stepped up.
Ginebra won the championship - MC is in a slump (3 games). Menk and Tubid contributing in game 7. FINALS MVP
and your right IM a big MC fan cause i know a good player when i see one. MARK brought this team to what it is right now, no questions asks!
your right mark deserve it more, are you sure t
Prestigious school?hahaha,kaya pala tiga-kain ka lang pag may dinner ang Champions bwahaha.Pakita ka nga ng write ups mo kung talaga magaling ka!Perstigious daw hahaha yababg mo e wala ka nga magawa sa TRADITiON nyo e wala ka boses.Journalism lang pinagyabang mo na e kahit nakapikit ako kaya tapusin yan.
I THINK MARK IS THE BEST WHETHER HE IS THE MVP OR NOT, BECAUSE “HE DOESN’T PLAY FOR HIMSELF BUT FOR THE TEAM”. GIN KINGS CONGRATS ……. MORE CHAMPIONSHIP TO COME!!!!
I’m a very avid fan of many teams on the pba. I love Ginebra the most and it’s just too frustrating that Mark Caguioa has not been given the awards that are for him. I could remember Ginebra struglling without him, even with jayjay and menk around. But when Ginebra had the spark, even without menk or jayjay or tubid, they can take any team down. Isn’t that logical guyz? I could understand why kobe didnt win it over o’neal cause o’neal had better stats but with mark cagioua it’s just so unfair. Mark is arguably one of the most explosive players on the league, well you gotta mention kelly williams as well and kelly got it. Basketball is played in the court guyz and not on press @!$@#! please do remember that.
MARK CAGUIOA IS DA BEST,, SINCE HE STEPPED IN DA PBA MOST SPECIALLY IN GINEBRA TEAM, HE IS A TRUE MVP MATERIAL PLAYER,,, WITH HEART,GUTS, ENERGY IN DA COURT,, HIS FANCY MOVES, ACROBATIC SHOT, KILLER CROSSOVER MOVES EN TEARDROP SHOT THAT MAKES ME AMAZED TO MARK,, “IKA NGA LARO NA NILALARO PA” ,,
CERTIFIED PROLIFIC SCORER BUT HE IS A DEFENSIVE PLAYER ALSO ,,, HIS CRUCIAL REBOUNDS DURING DA LAST MINUTES IN GAME 7, IS BEEN DA KEY WHY GINEBRA WON DA CHAMPIONSHIP CROWN , BUT STILL NO ONE RECOGNIZED IN MEDIA WORLD , ,PRESS CORPS ARE TO BLIND TO SEE MARK CAGUIOA ‘S EFFORT PLAYING WITH TENDONITIS,,GAME 1 TO GAME 7 HIS STATS REALLY PROVED THAT HE IS ALSO DESERVING TO BE FINALS MVP,, YES MC IS TAKLESO AT MAANGAS SA MATA NG PRESS CORPS, BUT MY IBUBUGA NAMAN SI MC TALAGA, HE IS VERY EXPRESSIVE PLAYER, HE SAYS WHAT HE WANTS YET HE DOES WHAT HE SAID, NA SANA WAG MAMIS INTERPRET NG PRESS CORPS AT IBA PA,,,
MC,,>>AN MVP WITHOUT DA TROPHY
^ yan si kbrgy. ems. kahit saang korte mo pa iharap yan, ipagtatanggol at ipagtatanggol nya si mc. go gurl. =)
p.s. balitaan mo pa ako sa mga nalalaman mo ha. hehe.
THE FACT OF BEING THE # 1:
AFTER THE RESIGNATION OF COACH JAWO, PRIOR TO MARK CAGUIOA’S ERA THE GIN KINGS WERE ALWAYS IN THE LAST SPOT OF THE STANDING AND WE ALL KNEW THAT. IN HIS ARRIVAL IN THE TEAM WE’VE JUST REDEEMED OUR PRIDE FOR BEING THE NO. TEAM IN THE PBA. DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY MARK CAGUIOA IS THE BEST!!! HE MAY NOT GET THE AWARD THAT WOULD VALIDATE HIS ALL EFFORT I KNOW IN MY HEART AS 1 OF HIS MILLION FANS HE IS THE MVP MORE THAN OTHERS DO!!!
THE SACRIFICE OF MARK CAGUIOA:
FROM WHAT I REMEMBER WHEN THE KINGS GOT THE ALL-FILIPINO CHAMPIONSHIP 2006-2007, MARK CAGUIOA WAS THE BEST PLAYER OF THE CONFERENCE, HE JUST NEED TO PLAY 70% OF THE GIN KINGS GAMES IN THE FIESTA TO BE ABLE TO BE AWARDED AS MVP. MARK DIDN’T GO FOR THAT AWARD HE DECIDED TO PLAY FOR PHILIPPINE TEAM, THAT TIME WILLIE MILLER GOT THE 2ND MVP AWARD. YOUR THE BEST MARK!!!
buti pa noon, ganitong conspiracy lang ang pinoproblema ko.